I personally think education SHOULDN'T be a privilege, because whenever I think of all the world problems, the solution I always come to is education. So it's not only discouraging when education is maintained as a privilege, but it is also preventing us as a whole from solving many of these problems.

But that's my opinion, what's your thoughts on education?

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Privilege by definition is a type of right that provides benefits  or advantages. In the United States, it is tremendous a privilege to have the educational and other self-advancement opportunities many people in other countries don't have.

Is it a right? At this point in history,  is your right in the United States to be able to attend public schools until you obtain a high school diploma. It is your right to apply to attend colleges and universities to obtain higher education. Unfortunately it isn't a right to receive free education. But you are privileged to have the opportunity to apply to go obtain a higher education even if it is with government assistance.

Here in the UK the 'right' to education is enshrined in law. I think that's as it should be, your government shouldn't be able to prevent you from getting an education for any arbitrary reason. If the general population aren't educated it's easier for corruption and abuses to occur.

Education should never be a privilege in the sense of it being a special right or advantage which is granted or available only to one person or group of people. It should be equally accessible to everybody.

I personally believe that education should also be free to everybody, as I believe the economic and social benefits of an educated population outweigh the cost of providing that education. Unfortunately, at the moment, the majority of the electorate don't seem to agree with me.


Girlfriend, I owe $120,000 in student loans. I totally understand...

Wow! The amount people pay for a degree in the US actually blows my mind.

There's been uproar here in the last couple of years because the tuition has been increased to £9,000 per year. Which means that, with the cost of living on top, some students could be graduating with £40,000 in debt if they do an undergraduate degree. Compared to the £12,000 that I left with. 

But that's nothing compared to what so many people overseas pay. And most people here never end up having to pay it back.

Indeed it is ridiculous here. 

And what sucks even more is that jobs out there, depending on what field you're in, really look at what school you came from. It's all about names. If you want to get into a big name company, you have to go a big name school what costs big amounts of money. 

It's things like this that keep rich people rich and poor people poor.

And I believe in the rags to riches stories told time after time. But somethings gotta give, for the sake of continuing on as civilized nation. 

I attended an Ivy League knowing I couldn't afford to go. I decided to go after my acceptance because the program is one of the most prestigious programs in the nation/world. So, it was worth every penny I spent to go and work with some of the most renowned people in publishing and writing. Going to an Ivy League  made me much more marketable than some of my friends who decided to attend cheaper programs. So, no regrets. I have a lot of loans but I'm not in a position to cry anyone a river. Most people has loans unless if you have $120,000 laying around in a bank. So you graduate  and make the most of your life after your 'fancy pants' education. At least that's what I'm doing and I'm okay with that.

There are too many people in college. A lot of people that shouldn't be.. it reduces the value of all degrees. It's getting so bad now that even community colleges are turning down students. 

Whenever you reduce the problems of the world to one phrase, word or issue, you aren't looking at the problems hard enough. 

Though that may be true, that mentality coincides with the whole "dog eat dog world" scenario that's prevalent in today's society. It translates to looking out for only your own skin, your own well-being, making sure that everyone after you doesn't get a chance at any sort of success that you're benefiting and enjoying. Sure you worked hard to get to that point, but you also played dirty to make sure NO ONE ELSE behind you can get it. 

And that mentality snowballs into a clusterfuck that contributes to all our world problems. And yes I am putting all the problems together because even though they are different in regards to what field they affect or what aspect of life they affect, or even what culture/nation they affect, some sort of education is a necessary part of each and every solution. 

Sarah Le Blanc said it herself, "I personally believe that education should also be free to everybody, as I believe the economic and social benefits of an educated population outweigh the cost of providing that education."

So yes, it is an argument of keeping the rich people rich and the poor people poor. And as a matter of fact I grew up privileged, very privileged with my dad serving in the military for over 20 years. So if anything, me being a "privileged kid" promoting  greater opportunity for those who aren't as privileged, should mean something. It's not a matter of tending to lazy people's needs and wants either, it's a matter of looking at our society as a whole and doing whatever we can so that all of society can benefit, not just part of it. 

I also think that this idea that degrees are being devalued is ignoring the bigger picture. Yes, it's true that there used to be far smaller numbers of people on degree and postgraduate courses. But there also used to be far more employment opportunities to those without a university education.

Technology has made vast numbers of the skilled jobs and trades that used to exist obsolete. Far more of them have been moved overseas to places where the wages are so low that the more developed nations couldn't hope to compete.

We live in a global economy now. And in Europe and the US if we want to maintain the standard of living that we're used to we need to be training people for roles in businesses and services where we are able to take the lead. And a higher proportion of those jobs need people to have a higher level of education than was seen as the norm in the past.

It may not always be an issue of degrees being devalued, but some times it becomes a disservice to the people getting them... for instance in Ontario something like only %20 of graduates from teachers college will get a job teaching in the province, and yet, because of the demand from highschool grads who want to be teachers they keep increasing the number of students they accept...often into 4 year programs where they will drop nearly $20 000 a year on tuition/living expenses, with no hope of employment (unless you're willing to move outside the province or country). How is this situation right... high school grads aren't expected to be knowledgeable enough of the future job market to take that into account when picking college degrees, I think there is a responsibility on the schools part to take job market into account, limit the number of people they are training and accept only the highest qualified students.

Education through highschool, certainly a right, post secondary only the opportunity to it needs to be. Here in Canada the government alright at providing loans/bursaries to of set tuition to people in financial need, but I think that being said, there are other considerations as to whether you should be educated in a field or not.

Exactly. But education has become a business and they'll just keep taking people's money and handing out degrees, without even caring that the person doesn't have a prayer of getting a job. And it has become a business because of the attitude that everybody should go to college. 

There needs to be a mechanism in place that addresses this. Read the story of the girl I linked who spent 200,000 on a sociology degree. It isn't uncommon. She even admits she didn't know what the hell she was doing and nobody advised her otherwise. 


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